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Aanu AdeoyeWest Africa correspondent, Financial Times
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There is an assumption that a new generation stepping out into the job market will bring with them fresh ideas, and new energy, paving the path forward for their country’s future. But what if that generation of young people took all of their skills...somewhere else?
This is called brain drain. It’s the outflow of essential minds from countries to regions with more opportunity. Today, this drain is emerging as a major concern for the future of West Africa, where talented and capable professionals—doctors, engineers—are leaving their home countries.
Among the concerns of this brain drain is that the future of Africa will be left to a new wave of military leaders, rather than an aspiring professional class.
The future prosperity of the world’s youngest continent is at risk if it loses its talent. The contagion effect—where corruption, coups, and lack of economic opportunity lead people to leave, driving further instability—could make matters even worse.
I’m Gabrielle Sierra. And this is Why It Matters. Today, can West African countries escape this vicious brain drain cycle?
Ebenezer OBADARE: The emigration of expertise out of Africa, not just in terms of brain, in terms of the medical doctors, the nurses, the architects, the lawyers, the engineers, that’s the classic definition of brain drain, it is true. But what tends to get left out of the conversation is also the brawn drain, right? Professional footballers, plumbers.
This is Ebenezer Obadare.
OBADARE: I’m the Douglas Dillon senior fellow for Africa studies here at the Council on Foreign Relations. I like to say that I cover everything under the African sun. Every young person who thinks there is no future ahead for them, wants to leave. Which is why if you look at the numbers and the demographics of people on the border with Mexico, trying to cross over into the United States. An increasing number of those people are young Africans: Nigerians, Senegalese, Gambians, Sierra Leoneans who have stowed away on ships and have just looked for different opportunities to leave because they want better opportunities for themselves. So that’s your brain drain right there, but I think it’s worth emphasizing that we shouldn’t just focus on the brain. Increasingly, the brawn is also becoming very important.
More than 10 million West Africans left their home countries in 2020. While two out of three migrants stay on the continent, a growing number are moving to the United States and Europe—the share of West African emigrants residing in North America has tripled in the past three decades.
The majority immigrate legally, but an increasing number are coming through irregular channels. 59,000 African migrants were detained at the U.S.-Mexico border last year, more than four-times as many as in 2022. Three of the four largest origin countries were in West Africa.
And it’s not just highly-educated people that are included in those statistics. There’s also been an increase in what Ebenezer calls a brawn drain. The result is a climate in which a huge proportion of the population is considering leaving.
Gabrielle SIERRA: A few years ago we did this episode and it was called the Future is African. And it’s about how a population boom in Africa could make it much more of a powerful force in the world. You know you’re on the ground speaking to people every day? What’s the feeling in the air on staying or leaving?
Aanu ADEOYE: When we conceptualize migration, we think of people arriving on boats, people taking incredibly difficult journeys across the deserts to get to Libya and then trying to get to Europe, or people going through the Darién Gap to get to the United States.
This is Aanu Adeoye.
ADEOYE: I am the West Africa correspondent for the Financial Times. I’m based in Lagos. That basically just means I cover West Africa for the FT and parts of Central Africa as well. But you see a situation in West Africa particularly where most people who are young, middle class, and educated want to leave the country because there’s a shortage of skilled workers globally. And so, if you’re a doctor, or you’re an engineer, or you’re a nurse in one of these countries, there’s a good chance that there’s a country somewhere else that could use your talent, that could use your skills.
https://youtu.be/YQPu-JiqlP8?si=yDPr5ixcSCIG08Xk&t=10
News Central TV: Young people across various professional fields, especially from the medical and tech sectors seek greener pastures in European countries with no plans of return.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw3ZhfWpTtU
CGTN Africa: The impact of brain drain on Africa’s health sector is severe. Doctors and nurses are leaving in large numbers, leading to critical shortages in countries like Nigeria, Ghana, and Zimbabwe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNvu01OGv-Y
DW News: I believe that practicing medicine in Nigeria was just getting a bit more hostile and I just wanted to be able to thrive, so that was the reason I decided to make the move.
SIERRA: So what do we need to know about Africa’s migration movement right now?
OBADARE: One is to acknowledge just the sheer numbers of young people, not just in West Africa, but Africa in general. Africa is by all accounts, the world’s youngest continent, the average age is 19. So what that means, that there is tremendous pressure for those young people to succeed, to do things that they see young people in other parts of the world doing. That’s bringing a lot of positive pressure on the government in West African countries in terms of politics, pressure for transparency, for popular representation and all of that. How are those countries doing? Are they meeting young people’s expectations? Do young people see their future in those respective countries? The answer to that is young people are frustrated because when they look around them, they don’t see any future ahead for them.
ADEOYE: And essentially most people have decided that they’re going to vote with their feet. And we’ve seen this exodus of particularly, again, young, middle class, educated... because migrating "legally" is not cheap. It’s expensive. And so, you have that strand of people who have decided to leave. And there’s also the people who maybe they’re not as educated or they don’t have the resources to migrate, are also thinking of migrating because obviously, if the middle class is being squeezed, it’s going to be worse for people who are struggling to begin with.
This isn’t a new story. West Africa has seen waves of emigration in recent years—especially postpandemic. In the West African country Cameroon, one-third of all medical school graduates left the country last year. And the number of nurses and midwives in the country is now at its lowest point in more than twenty years. This dynamic plays out all across the globe, sometimes to the benefit of the United States and other wealthy countries, which have often been the recipient of those professionals.
But it comes at an important cost to the source countries and regions, and this cost is rising in West Africa as the region experiences coups, a worsening economic outlook, and an overall lack of opportunity.
SIERRA: Do you think that brain drain is self-reinforcing?
OBADARE: It can be. Why do people want to come to the United States? Why do people want to go to Canada? Why do people want to go to the UK? Why are people fleeing Zimbabwe, why are people fleeing South Africa? Outside Africa, why are people fleeing Venezuela? The common denominator in the countries where people are fleeing is failure of governance, collapse of infrastructure, and the perception that there is no future for young people in those countries. Once you attend to all those three factors, then you can arrest the situation. That’s why they’re leaving. I was just looking at numbers the other day, and this is not just young people as in people 19, 20, but people within the 20 to 35 belt. There’s a New York Times story that I read about Senegal, where someone went to an elementary school and was speaking to the young people. And then in a particular classroom of about 25 to 30 students, I think he asked the question, "How many of you want to leave?" And I think the entire class raised their hand. And it was like, “Wow, this is not good.” So your attention is then drawn to the fundamental question as to why. And I think you don’t have to look far and wide for the answer to that question. It’s about the poor quality of governance in many African countries.
According to a survey conducted in 2022, over half of Africans aged 18 to 24 are likely to consider emigrating in the next few years, citing economic hardship and lack of educational opportunities as their top reasons.
SIERRA: Not to sound cold, but we’re here at Why it Matters, I’m sitting here in the U.S. Why should this brain drain matter to people outside of West Africa?
OBADARE: It’s a very important question. Every now and then conversation about Africa comes on the table, and it’s punctuated with a concern for the future of Africa. Whether you’re talking broadly about development or you’re talking about democracy, you’re talking about political reforms. You are interested in the progress that African countries have to make in the immediate future. If all those plans are going to succeed, whatever strategy you cook up, whatever policy reforms you initiate, whatever grand visions and ideas you put forward, to have any chance of success, Gabrielle, you need people to execute them.
According to a 2023 Freedom House report, the country with the steepest decline in freedom over the past decade is the West African nation Burkina Faso. And making the top ten alongside it were fellow West African states Guinea and Mali, both of which experienced coups in 2021.
But political unrest isn’t the only thing hindering the region’s development. Long before severe floods inundated the region and destroyed crucial crops in 2022, West Africa was already facing its worst food crisis in 10 years, with more than 27 million people facing food insecurity.
A combination of these factors has kept West Africa far below averages on many development indicators. And if this cycle of brain drain continues, that development will continue to be hindered.
OBADARE: You need expertise. So there is no grand policy reform that we invest in from the point of view of, not just the United States, from the west, that will not require having highly skilled people to execute it. In the educational sector, you are going to need qualified PhDs and professors. You’re going to need doctors, you’re going to need nurses, you’re going to need all sorts of technicians. It then matters that those abilities, that expertise, that know-how is kept in Africa, right? Not because we don’t want migration. I’m not saying migration to the west should be restricted, but if we really want the best for Africa, at the very least we have to commit to helping African countries keep their best.
One of the sectors in which Africa is struggling to keep its best is health care. Thousands of doctors are now leaving West Africa annually, just years after Ebola demonstrated the region’s vulnerability. Still, health care is just one of the industries most affected by brain drain.
SIERRA: Do you feel like things have accelerated recently? The pandemic was pretty brutal for African economies, and Nigeria in particular is now facing its worst economic crisis in decades. Did you see anything change before and after the pandemic?
ADEOYE: On a much broader African scale, you have this situation where with the pandemic, African countries, thankfully were not as hit health wise, but economically things got really tough for people. And then just as African countries were starting their emergence and trying to put the horrors of COVID behind them, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine led to higher food prices, higher energy prices that economies that were already shaky basically were hit with a second obstruction in less than two years. So, it’s like all of these confluence of factors that made things just become terrible for people.
SIERRA: Are there some countries in West Africa that are feeling the effects of this brain drain more than others?
OBADARE: If you look at Nigeria, population 220 million, the GDP is between 67 and 77 percent of West Africa’s. It’s bleeding people and it’s feeling it. When I went back home in December, I spoke to people at these little roundtables with my friends, and there were just complaining about the lack of expertise in critical areas. The Nigerian Medical Association said in one of its reports that there are hospital wards where there are no doctors, where there are no nurses.
Despite Nigeria’s population of 218 million, the country only has 24,000 licensed doctors - that means one medical doctor for every 5,000 people, compared to one for every 250 people in wealthy countries. This has led Nigeria to consider a mandatory 5-year service for doctors who are trained in the country as a solution to a worsening problem.
OBADARE: No country can afford to lose medical personnel, at least not at the rate at which Nigerians, Sierra Leoneans, Senegalese are losing them. I told you the number for Nigerian doctors. Over the last five years or so, more than 70,000 Nigerian nurses have left. So you’re talking about a situation, which there are countries that really cannot afford to hemorrhage expertise or talent, are the ones hemorrhaging them. Which means that those countries become more and more vulnerable. So it’s one thing that you have nurses and doctors who are complaining that they’ve not been paid and they want to be paid, and they need their tools to be able to do their job. It’s another thing when you enter a hospital and you need critical surgery, you need a diagnosis for a problem and all of that, and there is nobody to do that. And that’s exactly what’s going on. And the problem is manifest in other West African countries. But the focus on Nigeria is important because it’s the biggest player in the subregion and you can see the pattern in other parts of West Africa by looking at what’s going on in Nigeria.
SIERRA (25:08):
So Nigeria in an overarching way is really representative of the problems the whole region is facing.
OBADARE: It is. With regard to brain drain, yes.
ADEOYE: Look, I mean, Nigerians are often accused of thinking the world revolves around us. It’s something that I think Americans are also accused of a few times. I think you can see some of the patterns in that. It’s not just in Nigeria. I travel across the region for work and I talk to young people, and I hear the same frustration as well, people who are frustrated with the lack of economic opportunities. So, it’s just the same patterns that you can see in Nigeria are basically emerging elsewhere. The method in which people are leaving the country might differ slightly. But I think overall, beneath it all, there’s this immense frustration that people are feeling about the state of their countries basically. One of the narratives in the 2010s was about this emerging middle class in Nigeria. But two recessions later, two currency devaluations later, the economy has fallen off a cliff since 2015. And so, you can basically just map the time that things started getting worse for most people. And I think there was a poll in 2019 that showed that I think 40 percent of Nigerian adults that they interviewed expressed a desire to migrate and say they were thinking of doing it within the next five years. It’s 2024 now, so it’s five years now. And that was the highest number of any country that was surveyed in this poll. Anecdotally, and also from the data, you can see that people either want to leave or people are thinking of just leaving.
According to a report by the Africa Center for Strategic Studies, more Africans today are willing to leave their home countries than ever before.
And as we said, Africa is exceedingly young; the continent is projected to make up 42 percent of the world’s youth population by the end of this decade.
SIERRA: I’m curious, how does it feel being around just a group of people who are just so young?
ADEOYE: So, it’s a very interesting thing because you see that most people don’t have, for example, the memories of some of the worst periods of this country. As recently as the ’90s, Nigeria had a military dictator, and there’s people who have never experienced that. The country is currently going through economic turmoil right now. It’s terrible, but it’s not the worst this country has ever experienced. But for loads of young people, this is as bad as it gets. And objectively, inflation at 30 percent is really bad. But there used to be 70 something percent inflation at some point in the ’90s. So, we have a population that’s incredibly young, and that means there’s people who are experiencing different parts of the country, different aspects of the country for the very first time in their lives.
This feeling is so common that it has earned a popular name: Japa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0p38ayCAUg
Naira Marley: Japa, Japa, Japa.
https://youtu.be/5ienl_EamUk?si=DdaeNCS5Og6IShr_&t=18
DW The 77 Percent: Japa, a word that holds the power to ignite dreams of a new life.
https://youtu.be/o4Kocf_lwEQ?si=Y3on70y4N6tjHAXI&t=108
Channels Television: When did you Japa and why did you Japa? For a better life essentially.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTLA0kbN1Is
Channels Television: We’re talking about a Japa syndrome now affecting Nigeria.
https://youtu.be/U2WJs1hrclc?si=A4jdTY3x5A_p_nFJ&t=75
DW The 77 Percent: Japa, the Yoruba word for run.
SIERRA: So, I want to ask you about a term that we’ve seen on social media to describe this phenomenon of people leaving Nigeria. What is japa? How did it come to represent the feelings of Nigeria’s youth?
ADEOYE: Okay, yeah. So, japa means to literally flee something. And it was popularized by an Afrobeats singer called Naira Marley. And he sang in his song, people should japa. And he was mentioning like, “Japa, japa, japa to London.” And then he mentioned other places people could potentially go to. And it’s just one of those things that just takes on a life of its own and you can’t explain how it happened. And I think it also meshed with the popular feeling in 2018, 2019 in Nigeria at the time of people thinking of basically how to leave Nigeria. And so, japa, it’s a Yoruba term, which is one of the main ethnic groups in Nigeria. But it has transcended tribe or ethnic group. Everyone uses it. It’s basically a verb now. People say I have japa’ed, with the “ed” at the back. It’s a thing that’s now part of the Nigerian lexicon. And now everyone knows about it. So, it’s one of those things that just takes on a life of its own. We can talk about economic theories and political whatever, but just this four letter word just encapsulates the entirety of what we’ve been discussing this whole time.
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While young professionals are beginning to leave West Africa, the region is coping with a surge in political upheaval in which some of those left behind, who perhaps don’t have resources to leave, are throwing support behind populists and coup leadership.
ADEOYE: I think the interesting thing about the Africa’s "youth dividend," we’ve always, when I say we, people have always talked about this uncritically and saying it and mentioning the youth as an unalloyed good when people don’t talk about the fact that it’s only useful if you have jobs for these young people. I cover radicalization and stuff happening in the Sahel, is this semi-arid strip in the Sahara, right south of the Sahara. And you have countries there like Niger, Burkina Faso, and Mali that have been affected by jihadis insurgencies for the best part of the last decade. And what happens the most is a lot of the people who joined these groups are not necessarily motivated by ideology. And this is from me talking to security officials from those countries and from western countries who work there. And most of the problem is because people don’t have jobs and they’re frustrated, they have grievances against their country. And these groups, these insurgent groups, they’re very clever. I remember talking to some French security official who told me, look, if someone is unemployed and you give them $50 a week and and a kalashnikov, and a motorcycle, that’s a very good deal for someone who is unemployed, because the alternative is that they don’t have anything to do. So, it’s like having masses of young people is only an advantage if there’s work for them.
OBADARE: If you look back to some of the coup d’etats that took place over the last two, three years, Mali, Niger, Guinea, Burkina Faso, Chad and all of that, one element that came out that puzzled a lot of people is young people welcoming the military, appearing to welcome the military. And my interpretation of that has always been, it’s not as if those young people want soldiers in power. What this message they’re sending is that liberal democracy as practiced in those countries has not been working for them. And it’s one of the reasons why young people in West Africa and in Africa in general are fleeing to more economically prosperous and democratically stable countries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NukJMICx6Zw
CBS News: The United States is suspending security cooperation with military forces in Niger. A week after soldiers ousted the country’s president and his government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUGdXdg9vfc
PBS NewsHour: Today, soldiers in Gabon seized power immediately after election results were announced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS4aF11yWVQ
DW News: Another African leader toppled by the army. Whose turn will it be next?
SIERRA: So since 2020, there have been 9 successful coups in West and Central Africa. It seems like a complex situation: young people are both repelled by what’s going on but left no options for success, contributing to a ruthless cycle of political turmoil. Can you speak more to this? How is the political situation in West Africa contributing to mass migration?
OBADARE: I think following the coups d’etat that have taken place over the last three years, I think more and more people have given up. You have all these leaders in Africa who have been there forever, Yoweri Museveni, Paul Kagame, Nguema in Equatorial Guinea, Biya in Cameroon. So if you look at the military coups, one significant thing that happened was that young people came out. Not to protest the coups, but to express support for the coup plotters to say, "Hey, please welcome." And I’m sure even the soldiers must have been taken aback like, "You’re not supposed to like us, we just took over power, we just overwrote your mandate." But that’s not what happened. And I think that’s giving a lot of young people anxiety about their future. Here’s something I think we all want to know about young people. There is a sense in which youth culture globally is the same. We live in a world in which images, ideas, concepts, practices, discourses, circulate ceaselessly, and young people consume all these things through TikTok and Facebook and Instagram. It’s one thing for instance to be frustrated about what’s going on in your country. It’s another thing to have this sense that things could be better and to be talking to all your friends in other parts of the world and to be observing things going on there. And then to ultimately ask that question, why not here, why not me? So in that sense, persistent political instability, political uncertainty, economic depression, all those things are leading young people to want to leave, and contributing to brain drain.
SIERRA: Do people blame countries like France and the UK, which obviously colonized Africa for decades, for current problems?
ADEOYE: This is the interesting part, right? In Nigeria, when people are talking about how things have gone wrong, people usually don’t blame colonialism. People save a lot of their energies for the elite class in Nigeria, for the ruling class in Nigeria. And then if you go to like, francophone speaking countries, Senegal, Mali, Burkina Faso, they have a big grievance with France. I think some of it is probably how the UK and France differed in their attitude towards Africa post-independence. The UK left most countries alone and retreated into its own shell. France had Françafrique, which was this system of African elites basically working for French interests in exchange for diplomatic cover and all of that stuff. I think you’re much more likely to find a Nigerian living in diaspora, blame the UK for the country’s woes than a Nigerian living in Nigeria. Most Nigerians living in Nigeria reserve all of their anger for the ruling class in this country.
Anti-French sentiment has sometimes bubbled over into support for a surprising partner: Russia.
SIERRA (34:47): When we talk about why this matters to the United States, a lot of those young people celebrating coups were waving Russian flags.
OBADARE: They were. They were also burning French flags.
SIERRA: Okay.
OBADARE: It’s a case of two flags. It’s worth talking about. So part of the critique of liberal democracy and frustration with the way it actually materializes, is that it’s not delivered economically for young people. But there’s a larger story which is also stoked by China, by Russia, by those countries that are engaged in geopolitical competition with the United States. And the story goes like this, democracy is not for you in Africa. It’s a ruse concocted by the United States and western countries. What you need is your own way of governing yourselves, so hence Afro-democracy. The terms of that Afro-democracy are never really specified. And if you look at it very well, the people tend to promote it are African leaders because it allows them to get away with murder, practically speaking. But Russia and China come in and they use that to say, the United States is not your friend, western countries are not your friend. You know how I know that? They colonized you. Oh, by the way, they haven’t let go, there’s neocolonialism. But I didn’t colonize, we are your friend, accept us. So that’s what’s going on there, that’s why you see the Russian flag. Russia becomes a metaphor for that entity that is not the west, for that entity that is not the United States. Russia and China are the countries that are the countries that are the enemies of our perceived enemies, hence our friends.
SIERRA: So, that leads me to my next question, which is where are people going? Are they going to Russia or China? Are they going to Western countries?
ADEOYE: The UK has always attracted Nigerians. I think that’s continues to be the case. The U.S. is also a destination for Nigerians, especially for people who want to do graduate studies like PhDs. I know quite a few people who have moved to the states for their PhDs because American schools make it actively try and recruit people to join PhD programs. So, there’s that. The English language also makes it very easy for people to move. So, there’s a big Nigerian community in the U.S. as well.
As of 2017, that community measured 350,000 people. And the number of Nigerians living in the U.S. has grown even larger in recent years, as an increasing number of Nigerians choose to move abroad. Across the pond, the UK granted over 78,000 visas to emigrating Nigerians in 2023 alone.
Unsurprisingly, young Nigerians have the most negative opinion in the whole continent about the direction their country is headed. 95 percent saying things are going badly.
ADEOYE: Canada has also been intentional about getting skilled migrants from across the world. But I think what has changed in the last maybe five years of thereabouts is we’re seeing more and more people moving to European countries, say Germany or the Netherlands. And in talking to people, most people who go there, usually engineers working for tech companies. These are the cities that have big tech companies in Europe. So, because of economic opportunities, people are being attracted to countries that are usually not on Nigerians’ radar.
SIERRA: When you’re reporting around West Africa, what is the sentiment among those who do decide to stay?
ADEOYE: Some people decide to stay because they have good jobs and they like living here. I think another intangible is the thing about people being scattered all around the world is you kind of lose the sense of community. Nigeria in particular has a big sense of community. Personally, my brother lives abroad, right, and I have a niece and a nephew. I haven’t seen them because I still live in Nigeria, they live in Canada. Ideally, most people would love to live back home.
SIERRA: Right. I mean you bring up your brother. A personal question is you. You grew up in Nigeria, moved abroad. And now you’re back.
ADEOYE: I moved back. Yeah.
SIERRA: Why?
ADEOYE: I mean, I think the answer is just like, I love being a journalist. And so, it’s like when the opportunity to join the FT came, I just wasn’t in a position to not move back. When I told my friends I was moving back to Nigeria, most people were like, why?
SIERRA: Yeah. Did many of your friends decide to leave Nigeria also?
ADEOYE: Yes. Almost everyone, either people I grew up with, or people I met as an undergrad, or whatever, now live abroad. They live elsewhere.
Ebenezer also grew up in Nigeria. But now he lives in the United States.
OBADARE: I moved to the United States in 2006, became an American in 2015. I think where most people have a problem is with illegal migration. In Europe, I think it’s becoming a question of numbers. I think most people, again, welcome migration. But you do have a corner of society in some of those societies like in Sweden, in Finland, where people are beginning to have some reservations, to express some reservations about the number of immigrants coming in. Other than that, I would say the United States, Canada and the West. I mean, think about Canada over the last five years or so, it’s literally opened its borders to migrants from different parts of the world.
SIERRA: Would you ever go back, what do you think?
OBADARE: I do go back, I went to Nigeria in December. But I am an American now. So I still have older parents in Nigeria, I was able to see them the last time I went. So my roots obviously are in Nigeria. And if you listen to my accent, you’ll know that there’s something Incurably Nigerian about me, that’s not going to go away. But I always say don’t listen to what people say, watch what they do. What do young people in Africa do? They vote with their feet. Where do they go? Everybody wants to come to the United States. Everybody wants to go to Canada. People want to go to the liberal democracies that are at the same time doing very well economically. People feel that in those countries that there are no arbitrary impediments standing in their way. And they look at the success that previous generations of migrants of those countries have been able to achieve and they say, I can do it. And I’m proud to count myself as one of those people.
SIERRA: What are some solutions? Solve the problem right now Ebenezer.
OBADARE: It’s easy. I thought you were not going to get there. I’m ready to solve all the problems. Okay, the United States will always be a point of attraction for people around the world, and long may that be the case. Canada, Germany, all the European countries, the United Kingdom. So what you want to have, and this comes back to the question of political stability that we started with. You want people to have a sense that when they’re living in their country, that the country itself is worth investing in. One of the problems, and I speak here as a Nigerian, is the absolute lack of transparency and governance, which then reverberates to other sectors of the society. I mean, the population of West Africa is right around 400 million. That’s a lot of people, that’s a big space. Potentially that’s a huge market for investment, that’s a lot of young people who want to excel, there’s a lot of energy there to be tapped into. So insofar as one is naturally deterred by pessimism. But I think there’s also something to be said for looking at the big picture and saying, what if we get it right in West Africa? What is it going to mean for the United States? What is it going to mean for the rest of the world?
SIERRA: Well, that’s the perfect bridge to my last question, which is going back to the episode we did in 2020, we called The Future is African. So I thought I’d end with a provocative question, is the future still African?
OBADARE: That would depend on Africans. What you always have in any society is potential. Mobilizing that potential, transforming it into actual security, welfare, prosperity for the people in question, it’s always a question of human artifice. The people of Africa have to do the heavy lifting. Outsiders can help, the EU can help, the United States can help, I encourage them to help, I hope they do help. But at the end of the day, the fundamental questions about the future of Africa will have to be provided by Africans themselves. Is the future African? It can be, depending on how Africans respond.
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Show Notes
Africa is by far the world’s youngest continent, by age of population. But its young people are increasingly leaving their home countries in search of greater economic opportunity and less instability.
This phenomenon is particularly pronounced in West Africa’s health-care sector: In Nigeria, there is just one doctor for every five thousand people, one twentieth the average level in most wealthy countries. In Cameroon, one-third of medical school graduates left the country last year. Experts say reversing this “brain drain” trend will require sweeping improvements in governance across the region. But if West African governments make those changes, experts say, the region could soon become a hub of prosperity.
From CFR
Mohamed Bella Jalloh, Amrit Virk, Ini Dele-Adedeji, Bassey Ebenso, “How to Stop West Africa’s Brain Drain,” Think Global Health
Comfort Ero and Murithi Mutiga, “The Crisis of African Democracy,” Foreign Affairs
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Aanu Adeoye, “Can Nigeria’s Brain-Drain Be Reversed?,” Financial Times
Ebenezer Obadare, “Is Western Policy on Migration Holding Africa Back?,” CFR.org
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“African Youth Survey 2022,” Ichikowitz Family Foundation
Alfred Olufemi, “There Won’t Be Enough People Left’: Africa Struggles to Stop Brain Drain of Doctors and Nurses,” The Guardian
“Africa’s Coups Are Part of a Far Bigger Crisis,” The Economist
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